Episode 50: Can Hypnotherapy Treat Autoimmune Symptoms? With Kerry Jeffery

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Episode 50 of the Phoenix Helix Podcast: Can Hypnotherapy Treat Autoimmune Symptoms? With Kerry Jeffery

What is Hypnotherapy?

Many of us have misconceptions based on television or stage performances of hypnosis. Real-life hypnotherapy is very different. It isn’t mind control. You are always aware and in control of your behavior. Rather, it’s a therapeutic technique that uses the power of positive suggestion to bring about subconscious change to our thoughts, feelings and behavior. It has potential to help both psychological and physiological problems: everything from anxiety to addiction, from irritable bowel syndrome to chronic pain.

Today, we talk about its application to life with autoimmune disease, and how it might be an effective tool to help us manage our stress and even alleviate chronic symptoms. My guest is clinical hypnotherapist, Kerry Jeffery. She has autoimmune disease herself and uses hypnotherapy in her own healing journey. She also works with people professionally worldwide.

Episode 50 of the Phoenix Helix Podcast: Can Hypnotherapy Treat Autoimmune Symptoms? With Kerry Jeffery


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Show Notes

  • Intro (0:00)
  • Thank You to Our Podcast Sponsor – Paleo on the Go (1:41)
  • Meet Kerry (3:27)
    • She has multiple autoimmune diseases herself, including: celiac, Hashimoto’s and antiphospholipid syndrome. At her worst, she had so little energy, she didn’t even have the strength to sit up. Talking was exhausting, so she had to stop talking with people on the phone. Her heart was also affected; if she overexerted herself, she risked going into heart failure. It was a terrifying time. Simultaneously, her brain fog was so debilitating that when she tried to talk, she couldn’t find words and often had to point to things, to try to communicate. Now, 16 months into her healing journey, her bad days are rare. She has to pace herself, but she has the energy to take care of life’s needs, and she’s been able to joyfully return to work. She even has some days where her energy feels boundless. The keys to this transformation were the paleo autoimmune protocol, self-hypnosis, and natural desiccated thyroid medication.
    • She writes about the emotional challenges of life with autoimmune disease through her blog, Emotional Autoimmunity.
    • Her professional counseling and hypnotherapy practice is Love Transforms LC. Based in Australia, she works with people around the world via Skype.
  • What is Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy? (14:07)
    • Stage performances of hypnosis are designed to entertain. It’s very different from clinical hypnotherapy.
    • Hypnosis is a natural state where you are more aware of your imagination than your immediate surroundings. For example, when you drive to work, deep in thought, and arrive having no memory of how you got there. You still drove safely, and if danger had presented itself on the road, you would have immediately returned to the present. Hypnosis is similar, but it’s intentional instead of accidental. It is focusing your attention to the exclusion of all other things. Hypnotherapy combines this state of being with therapeutic intent and intervention. You decide the goal you want to achieve. It’s a state where you are susceptible to the power of suggestion, and you work with your therapist on what those subconscious suggestions will be.
  • What are Some Applications of Hypnotherapy? (19:02)
    • Remove the feeling of trauma from a memory. The memory remains, but the emotional charge is gone.
    • Alleviate feelings of anxiety and depression.
    • Reduce physical pain and other physical symptoms.
  • How to Find a Skilled Hypnotherapist (22:21)
  • Self-Hypnosis (23:10)
    • In addition to working with a trained hypnotherapist, you can also buy self-hypnosis recordings. They aren’t as powerful as professional hypnotherapy, but they can be very helpful as a self-care technique.
    • Kerry sells one on her website, called Rejuvenation. She listened to this multiple times a day when her autoimmune symptoms were at their worst, to alleviate the debilitating anxiety that was one of her Hashimoto’s symptoms.
  • Hypnotherapy Case Study (25:54)
    • Kerry has a client with rheumatoid arthritis who also suffered from sciatica. She was taking steroids but it didn’t touch the sciatic pain, and she couldn’t sit, stand or sleep. Just one hypnotherapy session alleviated the sciatic pain completely and it didn’t return.
    • Results aren’t always that dramatic, but there’s a wide range of potential in how hypnosis can help. The body has limited ways to communicate with us, and it’s often through pain or discomfort. Hypnosis is a way to communicate more effectively with your body. In addition, strong emotions can contribute to inflammation in the body, and removing those through hypnosis can have powerful physical benefits as well.
  • What Helps Hypnosis to be Successful? (30:06)
    • Being open to the technique rather than resistant.
    • Finding a therapist you trust.
    • Being able to relax within the session.
  • Doctors and the Power of Suggestion (31:33)
    • If you are in a state of shock, you are much more open to the power of suggestion, both positive and negative. This is why after receiving a devastating diagnosis, what your doctor says next can powerfully affect your healing process. If your doctor planted negative suggestions at that point, hypnotherapy is a way to remove those and replace them with positive healing suggestions instead.
  • Guided Self-Hypnosis (34:01)
    • Here, Kerry guides us through a short self-hypnosis session, which focuses on relaxation, comfort and safety.
    • You can buy a longer guided self-hypnosis recording through her website.
  • Hypnosis Tip: Temporarily Disassociating from Your Body (38:40)
    • You don’t say “my body” or “my shoulder”, you say “the body” or “the shoulder.” This allows you to go into an altered state of awareness more easily. Focusing on your body can keep you “in the room” instead of allowing you to immerse yourself in the visualization.
    • The one exception to this is when Kerry is working with people who have body shame or body hatred. There, she wants to help them reconnect with their body.
    • Also, this disassociation isn’t permanent. It’s just a therapeutic technique. We want to be connected to our bodies in our daily life.
  • Can Hypnotherapy Cure? (43:10)
    • Hypnotherapy isn’t a cure for autoimmune disease, but it has the potential to permanently address specific issues, whether that is removing traumatic emotions, changing our attitude toward ourselves and our illness, or alleviating physical symptoms like the sciatica mentioned in Kerry’s case study.
    • Self-hypnosis is more similar to meditation. It’s a home-care technique that can support our healing process on an ongoing basis.
  • Learning Self-Love (47:16)
    • When Kerry received her autoimmune diagnoses, she pulled over on the way home from her doctor’s appointment and cried tears of gratitude for all her body had endured over the years. She didn’t feel that her body had betrayed her. Instead, she was in awe at her body’s ability to survive.
    • This wasn’t always her attitude. She bitterly hated her body for years and it’s a been a journey toward self-love. She feels this is important because you cannot hate or bully yourself into any sort of positive change. Lasting change only comes from love. You have to want the best for this person (you).
    • I wrote an article about this as well: My Body Is NOT My Enemy.
  • The Healing Power of Personal Boundaries (52:51)
    • If you can’t say “No”, if you can’t put yourself first sometimes, you are going to end up anxious, resentful, angry, depressed and exhausted. This is true for anyone, but especially someone with chronic illness who has limited energy. We teach people how to treat us, by what we are willing to accept and tolerate.
    • When you develop good boundaries, people respect, value and listen to you more. Relationships become healthier, and you personally become healthier.
    • If you join Kerry’s mailing list, she offers a free e-book: Building Strong Boundaries.
  • “Negative” Feelings Have Their Place, Too (57:57)
    • Many people are afraid to express their grief and anger, because it’s so large that they’re afraid it will consume them if they let it out. Here’s Kerry’s belief: the fear is always worse than the emotion. Emotions need to be released. And if we try to suppress them instead, they’ll come out in physical illness or a poorly timed explosion. There is no such thing as a “negative” emotion. Every emotion is valid and has a right to be expressed.
    • No only is hypnotherapy a positive way to release these emotions, Kerry has a blog called Emotional Autoimmunity, which is dedicated to these honest conversations, and she has a series of video interviews with people living with chronic illness. Here’s a link to her interview with me from February 2016: Eileen Laird of Phoenix Helix.
  • Outro (1:04:50)

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  3. You can also listen to the episode right here through the play bar at the bottom of this post. If you subscribe to my blog by email, you’ll got notified of future episodes.
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4 thoughts on “Episode 50: Can Hypnotherapy Treat Autoimmune Symptoms? With Kerry Jeffery

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  2. What probiotics are recommended if I am allergic to grains? I noticed the ones recommended contain maltodextrin

    • Hi Jennie. I think you wrote this question on the wrong article, because we don’t discuss probiotics in this episode. I’ll answer your question anyway, though. Probiotics are controversial. Some practitioners recommend them while others recommend homemade fermented foods instead. With homemade foods, there’s no worry of allergic ingredients. I have a kombucha series on this blog as well as a sauerkraut recipe (although sauerkruat is a better fall/winter/spring ferment, since it likes colder temperatures.) If you’d like to try bottled probiotics, GutPro is a brand that has no additives at all – it’s pure probiotics, and it’s also dairy-free. And Prescript-Assist is another respected probiotic formula. Whatever you try, treat it as a self-experiment. Pay attention to whether it makes your feel better or worse and only continue if it improves your health. Wishing you wellness!

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