Episode 89: Grief and Autoimmune Disease with Kerry Jeffery

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Processing the Grief of an Autoimmune Diagnosis

Living with chronic illness is hard. Even when we are empowered to reclaim our health and live a vital and beautiful life, that’s not the same as a cure. It’s natural to grieve the life we had before, when life seemed easier, and our bodies were more predictable. What feelings are normal to experience? What do we do if we feel stuck or overwhelmed? In today’s podcast, we provide a roadmap for moving through anxiety, shock, fear, denial, anger, guilt, grief and shame. We also talk about what acceptance really means, and how to cultivate the strength of resilience. Kerry Jeffery is the blogger behind Emotional Autoimmunity, where she writes about the emotional side of life with autoimmune disease. She is also a counselor and has autoimmune disease herself. She recently wrote a short book called Moving Through the Grief of Chronic Illness, and that’s the topic of today’s podcast.

Listen to the Show

  • Intro (0:00)
  • Eileen’s Updates (2:57)
    • You may have noticed this podcast aired a few days early. I’m going on vacation and wanted to make sure you didn’t miss an episode. We’ll be back to our regular every-other-Friday schedule in 2 weeks.
    • On the weeks between podcasts, I write articles on my blog. I recently began a new written interview series of Paleo AIP Reintroduction Experiences. If you don’t want to miss out, subscribe to my weekly newsletter.
  • Thank You to our Podcast Sponsor – Paleo on the Go (4:11)
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  • Meet Kerry (5:15)
    • She has multiple autoimmune diseases herself, including: celiac, Hashimoto’s and antiphospholipid syndrome. You can listen to her personal healing story in Episode 50.
    • She writes about the emotional challenges of life with autoimmune disease on her blog, Emotional Autoimmunity. She has a series of video interviews, including an interview with me as the guest. And if you sign up for her email list, you’ll get a free copy of her book: Moving Through the Grief of Chronic Illness.
    • She’s also a professional counselor and hypnotherapist and works works with people around the world via Skype.
  • Phase 1: Before Diagnosis – Anxiety, Confusion & Self-Doubt (8:36)
  • Phase 2: After Diagnosis – Relief & Shock (15:53)
    • Getting a diagnosis validates your experience that something was wrong. That’s the relief. The shock comes when you’re told it’s a lifelong diagnosis with no cure.
    • The amount of shock is influenced by the doctor’s bedside manner, their ability to help you with the treatments they offer, and whether you’ve experienced past traumas.
    • This is a life-altering diagnosis, so it can be traumatic, and it can also trigger past traumas as well, amplifying the feeling of overwhelm.
    • How to move through it:  Understand that your feelings are normal and valid. Getting help from a counselor who specializes in trauma can be very helpful. Having honest conversations with your loved ones is also important, so you can get support.
    • Resources:
  • Phase 3: Fear & Denial  (25:32)
    • Often, it’s the health unknowns that we fear the most, and this strips away our feeling of safety and security. Fear can also play a movie reel in our mind of worst case scenarios.
    • Fear breeds denial, and denial feeds fear. It’s a vicious cycle, and it’s easy to get stuck here. The problem is that we can’t take positive action for our health if we don’t acknowledge we have a health problem.
    • Becoming chronically ill doesn’t take away life’s responsibilities, so we often try to power through, thinking, “I don’t have time to be sick.” Yet eventually our bodies will force us to stop, and the longer we stay in denial, the greater the potential health consequences.
    • We also sometimes fall into magical thinking: that if we don’t accept the label, it’s not real.
    • Denial is meant to be a short-term coping mechanism that helps us regroup before we move forward.
    • How to move through it: Bring your fears into the light and look at them. While this can be difficult, they have more power when we don’t.
    • Resources:
  • Phase 4: Anger, Blame, Shame & Guilt (32:43)
    • When something bad happens, it’s natural to search for a reason and something to blame.
    • Anger can be empowering and help us move into action. Where it becomes negative is when it shifts inward, and we start to see our bodies as our enemies.
    • Guilt often arises when our illness interferes with our roles and responsibilities. We feel like a burden on those who love us, sometimes we question whether we are worthy of that love now, and parents often fear they are bad parents and somehow damaging their children.
    • Shame arises when we feel judged by others (or judge ourselves) for being the cause of our own illness. There is a negative message sometimes expressed in the mindset community – that we cause physical illness by not working through emotional blocks. While the mind-body connection is real, it’s not that simple. It is one factor that influences health, but we can’t use it to magically cause or cure illness.
    • How to move through it: Realize that you and your body are in this together. You are worthwhile person, regardless of your health status and abilities. You are not the cause of your illness. Offer yourself the same love and compassion you would a good friend in the same situation.
    • Resources:
  • Welcoming a New Podcast Sponsor: Shop AIP (41:10)
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  • Phase 5: Grief (42:47)
    • Grieving the loss of self – the person you used to be.
    • Grieving the loss of favorite activities you can no longer do.
    • Grieving change in relationships.
    • Because autoimmune disease is a chronic illness, each flare can take us back to this phase.
    • Sometimes we fear that if we let ourselves tap into this grief, we’ll be overwhelmed by it.
    • How to move through it: Allow yourself to feel it. It validates your experience and tears really are healing, both from an emotional release perspective but also a detoxifying perspective. Feeling the grief moves us forward.
  • Phase 6: Depression & Isolation (46:43)
    • Chronic illness can be very isolating and can impact our relationships. Sometimes our loved ones don’t understand what we’re going through. It’s common to feel alone, even in a family setting.
    • Symptoms of depression: withdrawing from family and friends, crying for “no reason”, lack of pleasure in things that used to bring you joy, feelings of worthlessness, feelings of hopelessness, a desire to sleep all the time or an inability to sleep, and sometimes depression is accompanied by suicidal thoughts.
    • Depression isn’t always emotion-based. Inflammation in the body also affects our brain. Mental challenges can coincide with an autoimmune diagnosis. Any actions you take to reduce inflammation body-wide will also help reduce inflammation in the brain.
    • Denial and depression can also go together, because if you force yourself to “power through” in spite of symptoms, it will often leave you physically and mentally exhausted.
    • How to move through it: Recognize the signs and symptoms, and reach out for professional help.
    • Resources:
  • Phase 7: Acceptance, Hope & Surrender (51:01)
    • People often mistake acceptance for giving up, which isn’t the same thing at all. Acceptance is simply making peace with reality, and from that place, we are more able to take appropriate action.
    • Hope is inspiration for that action. There are many autoimmune success stories online to help us see what’s possible.
    • Surrender during a flare allows us to stop and do what’s necessary to take care of ourselves. Resisting a flare often extends it. Surrender can be soothing.
    • Resources:
  • Phase 8: Action, Change & Experimentation (54:46)
    • Acceptance is a prerequisite for effective action.
    • This phase combines empowerment with responsibility – knowing that it is up to us to determine our quality of life. While others can support the process, we are in charge of our choices.
    • Autoimmune healing is a marathon, not a sprint. There are lots of interventions we can try. Pace yourself and pick one at a time. And track how you feel.
    • Resource:
  • Phase 9: Resilience, Gratitude & Appreciation (58:31)
    • Life’s greatest challenges also bring unexpected gifts: discovering purpose, accessing inner strength, finding community, developing self-love, prioritizing health, etc. The more we can see around and beyond our suffering, the greater our quality of life.
    • Since autoimmune disease involves remission and flares, we stop taking things for granted. We can develop a deep appreciation for good health when it’s here, and resilience in supporting ourselves through flares when they happen.
    • Resilience is a skill that we cultivate with practice and experience.
    • Resources:
  • The Process Isn’t Linear (1:01:15)
    • Not everyone goes through every phase, and the time spent in phases will vary from person to person.
    • In addition, it’s not a linear process. With chronic illness, it’s common to cycle back through these phases.
    • The more experience we get with supporting ourselves through the process of grief, the less often we get stuck in the painful phases, and the more resilience and compassion we develop for ourselves.
  • Outro (1:05:55)
    • Kerry’s blog is called Emotional Autoimmunity. If you sign up for her email list, you’ll get a free copy of her book: Moving Through the Grief of Chronic Illness. She’s also a professional counselor and hypnotherapist and works works with people around the world. She offers a free 20-minute discovery session. And she hosts a group on Facebook: Emotional Autoimmunity Recovery Support.
    • Eileen (your podcast host) is the author of multiple books, written to help people thrive with autoimmune disease. Learn more on the Books Page.
    • If you like this podcast, follow or subscribe through your favorite podcast app. You can also subscribe to Eileen’s biweekly newsletter.
    • Check out the entire archive of podcast episodes.

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7 comments on “Episode 89: Grief and Autoimmune Disease with Kerry Jeffery”

  1. Liesel St Arnaud

    Hi Eileen, This particular podcast could not come at a better time. I just had my first BIG flare since using the AIP last year to drastically reduce my Hashies symptoms & antibodies. It was so bad it was almost like getting the disease and then the diagnosis all over again. I was so down about it and then this podcast just helped me through. Knowing I can feel all those feelings again and still live and survive and get better again. Thanks to Kerry Jeffery and to you as always. Best Liesel – (the holistic nutrition student who reached out to you last year 🙂

  2. I am not sure how I arrived at this site but I am very grateful for it especially this podcast which has helped me see myself in a new light..
    About 20 years ago when I was having weird flashes of pain (like an electrical shock) my doctor said to stop eating nightshades and see what happens…… No pains – until about a week later when I swallowed a mouthful of Hash Browns before I registered ‘potato’. Listening to the podcast I realized I have been grieving mashed potatoes and red pepper sticks (a special favourite of grandchildren so always in the frig) ever since. Eggplant was a special treat available rarely in the stores of twenty years ago. I remember coming home and saying to my husband “Peter, Dr, K…….. says I can’t eat ANYTHING! Tomato was a staple for Peter so very seldom a meal without it in some form.

    Now at age 81, I have been a widow for five years and am also dealing with slow recovery from a bowel resection. This podcast has helped me see myself in a new light. Many griefs and angers appeared and were assuaged as I listened to your lovely voices. I am so lucky.
    My nightshade sensitivity is a mild auto immune condition that I was finding tedious to explain in any food situation where someone else is the cook. No big deal now that can be done without grief or anger.

  3. Donna Allgaier-Lamberti

    Not sure why but the program cut out twice in the same spot – while you were giving the promo about Autoimmune Paleo on the Go. Am I the only one this happened to? I want to give shout out to Kerrie and say hi and thanks for your great work. (I believe i was one of her early followers.) And Eileen I would very much like to see/hear an interview of “How to Navigate Having Autoimmune Conditions While Being a Caretaker (of Children, Ill Spouses and/or Aging Parents.)” About a year and a half into my own diagnosis of Hashimotos/Adrenal Fatigue my 73-year old husband was diagnosed with a neurological condition i.e. fronto temperol lobe dementia. We both know that it is enough of a challenge to navigate one’s own autoimmune lifestyle but to do it while caretaking for a loved one can be doubly hard. I’d love to listen and learn from the stories of others who are challenged with this “double edge sword” and learn more about how they cope and manage from their experiences. I think most us desire to be the one receiving the loving support from our loved ones and spouses but what about when their needs are equal to or greater than ones own needs? The question then becomes how to meet ones own needs while navigating that mine field of another with many needs too? Txs!

    1. Hi Donna. I re-listened to that section and the sound was steady. Maybe there was a problem with your internet or cell connection that caused the break on your end? Regarding your topic suggestion, it’s a good one IF I could find people who felt they had tips to share. When this podcast topic has been requested before, it’s by people feeling overwhelmed like you. You’re in a very challenging situation, and I admire you so much. I wonder if an online support group might be a better venue. If you wanted to start one, you could post in the general AIP groups on FB to find others in the same situation. Gentle hugs coming your way.

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