Episode 15: Adrenal Fatigue with Christopher Kelly

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Tired and Wired

Do you feel tired during the day, but find it hard to fall asleep or stay asleep at night? Have you lost all of your motivation and desire to do the things you used to call fun? Do you simply feel exhausted, like you can’t replenish or recover? You might be suffering from adrenal fatigue, which often accompanies autoimmune disease.

Today, I’m joined by Christopher Kelly, co-owner of the functional medicine practice, Nourish Balance Thrive. He has recovered from adrenal fatigue himself and helped hundreds of others do the same. If the photo below gets you curious, he’s also a proud father and professional mountain biker.

Adrenal Fatigue Update

In 2016, Chris Kelly returned to the podcast with a new perspective on adrenal fatigue, and a new test that he believes is more accurate. Check out Episode 47 for Adrenal Fatigue: Part 2.

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Show Notes

  • Intro (0:00)
  • Meet Christopher (0:57)
    • Co-owner of functional medicine practice: Nourish Balance Thrive.
    • Professional mountain biker
    • Father
    • He’s recovered from adrenal fatigue himself and has helped hundreds of others do the same.
  • What is Adrenal Fatigue? (9:56)
    • Mainstream medicine doesn’t take it seriously.
    • There are various theories on what causes adrenal fatigue symptoms. Christopher believes it’s not actually a problem with the adrenal glands themselves. Rather, inflammation in the gut affects the part of the brain that asks the adrenals to release cortisol, and can throw the system out of balance.
    • The diagnostic test is a saliva test, which measures cortisol, DHEA and other hormones throughout the day.  In healthy people, cortisol is highest in the morning and lowest at night. In people with adrenal fatigue, it’s either the opposite of that, or erratic throughout the day. DHEA is often low in people with autoimmunity, and always low in people with adrenal fatigue.
  • What Are the Symptoms? (17:29)
    • Fatigue all the time, but especially in the afternoon.
    • Waking up in the middle of the night and having difficulty getting back to sleep.
    • Total lack of motivation to do anything.
    • Mild depression.
    • Dizziness going from sitting to standing.
  • How Do You Treat It? (22:52)
  • Success Story Case Studies (31:11)
    • Maria was a 49 year-old runner with intense fatigue, hair loss and digestive issues. Her saliva test showed very low cortisol, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, melatonin and DHEA. This is typical for people adrenal fatigue. Her stool test showed  a parasite infection, which they treated with herbal antibiotics. They coached her on diet and lifestyle changes as well. Results: infection cleared, her symptoms went away, hormones balanced, and she was able to enjoy running again.
    • Chris has more case studies on his website.
  • Christopher’s Top 3 Recommended Tests (43:42)
  • Supplement Recommendations (44:33)
    • DHEA, Pregnenolone and Licorice Root drops, delivered sublingually (underneath the tongue). Very small doses have a potent effect. Christopher prescribes dosage based on saliva test results. Note: Licorice root is contraindicated for people with high blood pressure.
  • Food Recommendations (47:55)
  • Tips for a Good Night’s Sleep (52:02)
    • Change you habits to support healthy circadian rhythms.
    • Supplements that can be helpful: 5-HTP, and B6 . He looks at urine organic acid tests results to see which people need.
  • Exercise Recommendations for Athletes with Adrenal Fatigue (56:22)
    • It’s time for an “off season” to focus on healing. It’s not forever, but it is necessary for now.
    • If you’ve tried all the diet and lifestyle interventions and still can’t do the exercise you love, it’s time to do some lab tests to find potential underlying problems.
  • Outro (58:47)

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3 comments on “Episode 15: Adrenal Fatigue with Christopher Kelly”

  1. Hi
    Is there evidence that Willis-Ekborn disease may have triggered mood disorders in puberty.My female family members are genetically predisposed to Restless Legs and a few of us have developed anxiety and depression afterwards.

    Kind regards

    1. Hi Diane. Neither Chris nor I are qualified to answer this question. I recommend searching Pubmed to see if any studies have been done on that connection. I will say that very few health problems exist in isolation. Our bodies are holistic systems where everything connects in some way.

  2. We had a discussion about Adrenal Fatigue on my Facebook page, and one reader who recently recovered had some beautiful advice I’d like to share:

    “i think three things are most important: 1. you will want it to get fixed fast, which is understandable, but not realistic. you have to remind yourself that you’re not looking for a quick fix that might have you falling apart again after a short time; you want to actually heal yourself from it so that you can really live your life afterwards and not be afraid of tipping back into adrenal fatigue. 2. this means that when you finally start feeling better, it does not mean it’s over. celebrate the improvement and enjoy the feeling that what you are doing is working, but don’t take it as permission to stay up late or overdo it or otherwise be hard on your body. improvement will be gradual, coming in fits and spurts. if you keep at it, you will feel even better, and eventually you will feel even better than that. 3. if your adrenal fatigue is severe, as mine was, it might take a while before you notice ANY improvement. this will make it hard to believe in what you’re doing, but if you get good at listening to very subtle signals your body is sending you, you will start to notice tiny improvements. and those tiny improvements can give you hope. it does get easier as you go.” ~ Stephanie

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