Episode 35: A Simple Guide to the Paleo Autoimmune Protocol (AIP)

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Celebrating the Publication of My New Book

On January 1, 2016, I published the book I’ve been wanting to write since starting the AIP 3 years ago: A Simple Guide to the Paleo Autoimmune Protocol. It’s small enough to fit in your purse or backpack, simple enough that even someone with brain fog can understand, and written like a conversation between friends. The AIP has been transformative to my health, and I wanted to create a pocket guide that taught people the protocol as easily as possible. My guests on today’s podcast have also used the AIP to manage their own autoimmune health. Today, we share our healing stories, what worked and what didn’t, and what parts of the book resonate the most with our experiences.

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Show Notes

  • Intro (0:00)
  • Meet Our Guests (0:51)
    • Chelsey Luther was the graphic designer for my book, so she gets credit for the beautiful cover and interior. She uses the AIP to manage Crohn’s disease. Her first symptoms were joint pain in high school and college, but she didn’t know the cause. At age 23, she hit rock bottom, experiencing severe digestive pain, difficulty swallowing, bloody stool, exhaustion, dry eyes, migraines, auras, insomnia, nightmares, bodywide joint pain, muscle cramps, hair loss, cystic acne, and severe weight loss. It even hurt to breathe. She thought she was dying, while at the same time she was hoping the symptoms would simply go away. She finally went to the doctor and was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease within a month. She went on biologic medication which helped but she knew it wouldn’t be enough, so she started the SCD diet at the same time and eventually found the AIP. Now 3 years later, she’s taking low-dose naltrexone, and that combined with diet has led to dramatic improvements. While she still has some digestive issues, they’re mild compared to where she started. She no longer has pain, she’s regained weight, and her fatigue and other symptoms have mostly dissipated.
    • Erin uses the AIP to manage psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis and Raynaud’s disease. She started having psoriasis symptoms at age 5 but didn’t get diagnosed until age 12. By the time she was a teenager, it had spread over her entire scalp, torso and legs. Sunbathing actually healed the psoriasis everywhere but her scalp. Then, when she was in her 30’s she was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and Raynaud’s. Her arthritis and Raynaud’s symptoms appeared together as pain in her feet and severely cold toes where they actually turned purple. She’s been able to manage the arthritis and Raynaud’s 100% through diet (symptom-free). While she still has a small amount of psoriasis on her scalp, she’s had no new patches since starting the AIP. Update 2022: Erin has retired from blogging. 
    • Tara Perillo uses the AIP to manage lupus, psoriasis and vitiligo. At her worst, she had a stomach ulcer, hiatal hernia, severe joint pain, digestive inflammation, skin rashes and hair loss. She ended up in the hospital, urgent care and her doctor’s office 4 times in one week. She was eventually diagnosed with lupus. She declined medication and tried healing through diet. She started with regular paleo which helped, but it wasn’t until she started the AIP that she saw dramatic improvements. Her ulcer healed, her digestion improved, and after 2 years on the AIP, her lupus and psoriasis are both in remission. Update 2021: Tara has retired from blogging. 
    • Eileen Laird is the host of the podcast and has improved her rheumatoid arthritis symptoms by 95% through the AIP diet and lifestyle. For anyone who hasn’t heard my story, I share it in Episode 1.
  • Simple Guide Celebration Giveaway (1:51)
    • Update: The giveaway is over, and the winners have been contacted. Thanks for playing, everyone!
  • Thank You to our Podcast Sponsor – Paleo on the Go (2:28)
    • A frozen meal delivery service, they have a large menu of items for the paleo autoimmune protocol (AIP).
    • Use the code PHOENIX for 10% off your first order.
  • Favorite Chapters in The Simple Guide to the AIP (22:53)
    • Tara’s 1st Pick: Overcoming Self-Sabotage. So many times we are our own worst enemies, and this chapter offers so much help to overcome that impulse. This was actually a favorite chapter of all 3 of my guests.
    • Erin’s 1st Pick: What Are Circadian Rhythms? Erin has 2 small children, and she’s learned she needs to really guard her sleep for her wellbeing. It’s her biggest challenge, and also has the biggest effect on her autoimmune symptoms.
    • Chelsey’s 1st Pick: Your Body Is Not Your Enemy. Changing her relationship to her disease has made the biggest difference for Chelsey. Now she considers that every choice she makes can be a gift to her health or a detriment, and symptoms are simply her body’s way of communicating what it needs.
    • Tara’s 2nd Pick: Foods to Avoid and Why. Tara gets these questions a lot from blog readers, and this chapter is written in a way that provides the answers simply and clearly, so people can understand how the protocol works. It also lets people know that the elimination phase isn’t forever. Reintroductions follow once healing has begun, and Tara loves that reminder. She’s had a number of successful reintroductions herself.
    • Erin and Chelsey’s 2nd Pick: Stress Reduction. While every part of the AIP has helped, stress reduction has been essential to both of their lives. Chelsey started a mindfulness meditation practice and experienced a deep peace she never knew was possible. She also became aware of negative thought patterns she didn’t realize she was having. Erin takes one week offline every month, and that’s been powerfully healing for her. Disconnecting from the internet makes her feel more connected to her life. Even one day makes a difference.
    • Tara’s Final Pick: Reintroducing Foods. Tara rushed her reintroductions the first time around and ended up setting back her healing. Later, when she did the process correctly, she got a lot of foods back while still maintaining remission.
    • Erin’s Final Pick: Top 5 Mistakes People Make. Erin herself made a lot of these, particularly missing the importance of nutrient density – that it’s not just about the foods we avoid, but also the foods we need to eat to heal, like organ meats. For inspiration, check out this recipe roundup.
    • Chelsey’s Final Pick: Getting Support. Chelsey found the AIP very isolating when she started, and she wished she had joined some of the online communities, so she would feel less alone. Also, now that she has started cooking for her non-paleo friends and showing them how delicious the food can be, some of them have even started eating paleo for their own health.
  • Final Words of Wisdom (56:16)
    • Tara: Be patient with yourself and your healing. Give yourself time. Don’t rush reintroductions. And definitely get support.
    • Erin: It can be overwhelming to make such a big change. The good news is that it’s totally worth it. Think of your worst day now, and your best possible day in the future – that’s what you can have.
    • Chelsey: Don’t be a perfectionist. Just do your best and be compassionate with yourself.
  • Outro (1:01:45)

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23 comments on “Episode 35: A Simple Guide to the Paleo Autoimmune Protocol (AIP)”

  1. Just found your blog and podcasts. I am so grateful to come across this wonderful resource. I will be starting this protocol soon once I read your ebook. Thanks so much!

  2. Hi Eileen,
    I just listened to this episode and when I heard your introduction of Tara I was hoping to hear if she had any success with reversing the vitiligo with the AIP as I have that disease as well. Do you know if she has seen any re-pigmentation since starting the AIP? and if so to what extent and how long it took to see noticeable changes?


  3. Eileen, thank you for all your podcasts – you do great work! Especially appreciate the reminder in this episode to eat nutrient dense foods, especially organ meats. I started raising meat rabbits last year mostly so I could have a reliable source of quality organ meats, then I put off eating them. Rabbits do have very large livers that have a very nice mild flavor, so I don’t know why I procrastinate. And just ate my first rabbit kidney today. It was quite tasty. Thank you for ketping me on track!

  4. This makes all the sense in the world. Just trying to make the leap to such a change and hope for improvement! Bought your book today (kindle version!). Still trying to chNge my life!

  5. Hi Eileen,
    FYI, I nominated you in several categories.

    Have you thought of marketing your book to public libraries? When I was first diagnosed the library was such a great resource as I was trying to figure out which route to follow. (Plus, it was a destination when I could start walking again, but not very far.) The Portland public library has 16 copies of Amy Meyers’ book and I would love for them to have that many copies of your book.

    Wishing you tons of success with the book. You are such a ray of hope for folks.

    1. Hi Lynn. Thank you so much for the multiple nominations. The best way to get my book in your library is to request it, and ask others you know to do the same. The more requests they get, the more likely they are to order the book. They don’t really respond to marketing from authors. Like you, though, I love libraries!

  6. Hi Eileen, I would like to nominate you for the best podcast for 2015.However, the link that you provided – Paleo Magazine’s Best of 2015 is not active. Can you provide a new link?


  7. Hi lovely Eileen – you know I love your podcasts. And, this one is particularly special. HUGE congratulations on your latest HARDCOVER book baby. It’s seriously GREAT!!!

  8. Hi, I have enjoyed many of your AIP recipes and am in the early stages of learning what to eat and what not to eat. I am GF and DF with no soy and nightshades, etc. I have Hashimoto’s, Candida, SIBO and who knows what. I am working with someone to get help and appreciate your help. Please add me to your give away. Do you have any written material that I might mail to my Daughter who has much RA pain and some cripeling and surgery for this. She does not do computers. Thank you so much. I sent in an order today and wanted your Nomato sauce. It is out of stock. Please notify me when I can get it

    1. Hi Janet. My book sounds ideal for your daughter. You can buy it here: http://amzn.to/1kwUUJw . As for the giveaway, just follow the instructions in the Rafflecopter box at the bottom of the following post to enter: http://www.phoenixhelix.com/2016/01/01/my-new-book-and-a-celebration-giveaway/ . Lastly, get in touch with Paleo on the Go to ask to be put on the waiting list for the Nomato Sauce: https://www.paleoonthego.com/crm.asp?action=contactus . Wishing you and your daughter wellness!

  9. I LOVE your podcasts, and this one in particular. I’ve been diagnosed with RA, Osteo-arthritis, have had allergies/asthma since I was a child, am hypo-thyroid (think it was mentioned at one point that it is Hashimoto Hypo-thyroid), and have also had to remove Gluten, Soy, and Dairy from my diet in the past 18 months. Boy what a change for a 68 year old! Anyway, I would love to be included in your give away. Thank you for this opportunity. Happy New Year.

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